Forum Subsections Too Specific - 2006/09/01 10:06
I have a general disc golf question but it doesn't fit any of the categories listed on the forums index page. There is a "General Discussion" area but it's not very general if it's only subsections are "Lost & Found" or "Website Bugs/Suggestions".
I would like some clarification about some of the rules of the game. I've tried to find this info in the PDGA rule book but I wasn't able to find the appropriate rule.
I understand the rules regarding driving. The part I'm unclear on is this. What restrictions are placed on subsequent throws?
Lets say I drive to the middle of fairway. I'm supposed to use the thrown disc or a placeholder to mark the resting point of the driver. How far from that mark can I be when I release my second throw? May I take an X-step up to that location or must I stand stationary on the mark? Must I be on the mark or behind it? How far behind it or to the left/right may I be?
I understand this only matters in tournament play but I've been curious and I've been asked this question by others as well.
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Skippy Jammer
Senior
Re:Forum Subsections Too Specific - 2006/09/01 11:17
I believe it's roughly the width of the disc. Think in terms of the disc on where it came to rest. Someone correct if that is not the case but I know it used to be that way.
SJ
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Will Dower
Am
Re:Forum Subsections Too Specific - 2006/09/01 12:54
Hi Skippy, I think I met you a couple days ago at UCSC when I was looking into the course over there. Thanks again for your help.
What you said makes sense but I'd like a little more clarification if possible.
Were you saying that when you release your throw, you must have one foot planted within approximately 10" of the disc?
Additionally, must you start with a foot next to the disc? or can you take a few steps to wind up first?
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Ed Buskirk
Legend
Re:Forum Subsections Too Specific - 2006/09/02 08:01
Hi Will, Here is the applicable section of the rule book. It's a bit lengthy, but all of your questions are answered. In general, one foot must be touching the area where your throw landed before you marked it with your mini. You can take a few run up steps, but it's really hard to get your foot "on the spot". Thus, many people just throw in place after the tee off. Also note section C about keeping your balance when within 10 meters (~33 feet) of the hole.
Hope this helps!
Understable Ed
803.04 Stance, Subsequent to Teeing Off
A. When the disc is released, a player must: (1) Have at least one supporting point that is in contact with the playing surface on the line of play and within 30 centimeters directly behind the marker disc (except as specified in 803.04 E); and, (2) have no supporting point contact with the marker disc or any object closer to the hole than the rear edge of the marker disc; and, (3) have all of his or her supporting points in-bounds.
B. Stepping past the marker disc is permitted after the disc is released, except when putting within 10 meters.
C. Any throw from within 10 meters or less, as measured from the rear of the marker disc to the base of the hole, is considered a putt. A follow-through after a putt that causes the thrower to make any supporting point contact closer to the hole than the rear edge of the marker disc constitutes a falling putt and is considered a stance violation . The player must demonstrate full control of balance before advancing toward the hole.
D. A player must choose the stance that will result in the least movement of any part of any obstacle that is a permanent or integral part of the course.
E. If a large solid obstacle prevents a player from taking a legal stance within 30 centimeters directly behind the marker disc, the player shall take his or her stance immediately behind that obstacle on the line of play. The player must comply with all the provisions of 803.04 A other than being within 30 centimeters directly behind the marker disc.
F. A stance violation must be clearly called within three seconds after the infraction to be valid. The call may be made by any member of the group or an official. When the call is made by a member of the group, it must subsequently be confirmed by another member of the group. A player shall receive a warning for the first violation of a stance rule in the round. Subsequent violations of a stance rule in the same round shall incur a one-throw penalty.
G. Any throw that involves a validly called and seconded stance violation may not be used by the thrower. Re-throws must be taken from the original lie, prior to subsequent play by others in the group.
H. The player may not retrieve the originally thrown disc prior to the re-throw, except in the case of a putt from within 10 meters. Where a disc is retrieved in violation of this rule, a one throw penalty shall be imposed without a warning.
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Steve Lonhart
Legend
Re:Forum Subsections Too Specific - 2006/09/02 11:11
Thanks Ed for pasting the rules. And just so folks know: the "line of play" is the imaginary line that goes from the pole of the basket through the center of the disc that came to rest. You use the intersection of that line with the edge of your disc nearest the basket to determine where to place your marker disc (if you are using one). The line that goes through the far edge of the thrown disc (or the marker) is the one that you use to place your foot (or whatever is the point of contact nearest the basket). ANd you can go backwards along that line up to 30 cm away (about 12 inches). Cheers, Steve
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Will Dower
Am
Re:Forum Subsections Too Specific - 2006/09/04 11:58
Thank you! That's exactly what I was looking for.
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